Flickr made the announcement regarding Flickr groups posting rules on the 17th of November 2017, but I heard about it only today because some Second Life users are outraged by the decision.
Change to Limit of “Groups a Photo Can Be Submitted To”
We’ve received a lot of feedback from Flickr groups owners about helping them manage spammers. One source of frustration was a change (made a few years ago) that allowed a single photo to be submitted to up to 5000 groups.
99% of the photos currently submitted to groups are submitted to less than 60 groups.
Effective today, we are reverting those limits to lower values in an effort to discourage “photo dumping” behavior.
For Pro users, you will be able to submit a photo to up to 60 groups.
For non-Pro users, you will be able to submit a photo to up to 30 groups.
If you attempt to add to more groups, you will see an error message “Photo in maximum number of groups”.
Invitations to add your photo to a group don’t count towards this limit, and any photos currently in greater than 60 groups will remain in those groups.
We hope this will help group admins and moderators maintain better quality groups, and we appreciate the feedback from our users that helped identify this issue.
People are angry because they can no longer post a photo to more than 60 groups and have decided to leave groups. It now makes sense why I saw a few drops out of my small moderated groups in the past week. Being able to only submit to 30 or 60 groups does not affect how many groups you can follow, so why leave Flickr groups? You don’t need to add photos to a Flickr group to enjoy the photos it has on offer. As an admin, I enjoy moderating my groups and chasing cover pictures. What I would love to see is more interactions between users rather than just favs. I’d like to see some SEO rules being applied such as priorities on photos that have meaningful comments (as content is king) and more active forums.
Personally, the change doesn’t bother me because I find it excruciating to have to post a photo to over 30 groups. I’m amazed when I see some photos being posted to over 200 groups. Surely there is a bot for that because I can’t see myself finding the time to post to that many groups. Not only that, some groups have rules, which I can’t remember what they are, so I usually post to groups I know I’m allowed to (apologies if I have made a mistake, that can happen too). The search function within Flickr is not that great on an iPad so it does limit me and postpone any searching until I’m on my iMac.
Flickr wants to ‘discourage “photo dumping” behavior.’
How is that a bad thing?
In the long run, the change should be a good thing. It simply means that now people will have to rethink how they post their photos and make sure they are posting to the relevant groups. When I go to visit a group that is supposed to be about Second Life male fashion only and instead I see females in their underwear, I don’t look twice at those groups nor will I bother to post. And I much prefer to post in moderated groups.
One of my groups is about homes, furniture and decor, but people submit sexual photos. How is that relevant if you wanted to see only pictures of furniture?
What you have to ask yourself before getting angry at the Flickr changes:
- What results are you looking for by posting to so many groups?
- Do you feel you are getting the results you’re after?
I’m not a pro member and nor do I have a huge amount of followers, but I do know that most of my favs come from followers. And personally, I rarely go to a group, unless I’m looking for something specific. I scroll on my iPad for a certain amount of minutes each morning and whatever shows up first might get my fav if I like the photos. Occasionally, I visit people who have liked my photos to give back.
I set up websites for a living, so I know most website owners don’t check their stats, and that is an issue, though they don’t see as important. Stats are there for a reason and are significant to make informed choices. Stats don’t apply to just websites. They are relevant to anything you do on the Internet depending on your intentions in regards to your online presence. So check them before making rash decisions that may have no impact on the current situation.
The good news for Flickr Admin is that we can still invite as many photos as we want to our groups, so please do not dismiss Flickr groups who are making the effort to bring you relevant content.
Than you, have a great day, and see you on SL!